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I don’t think there is any disease of a milkweed plant that will kill caterpillars. I’ve never seen so much damage and havoc before. Hi Katie, this is normal for swamp milkweed and I’m not sure what causes this. It looks like tiny black / brown dots all over the underside and almost like bruised or wet spots on the top side. Discussion in 'First Time Marijuana Growers' started by JDubsUp, Sep 9, 2019. I’m worried that if it continues happening in the weeks ahead, we may end up with not enough leaves for our monarch caterpillars to munch on. I don’t spray monarch eggs/caterpillars directly with hydrogen peroxide and not sure if/how it would affect them. 3 Big Advantages of Winter Sown Milkweed + Winter Sowing Container ideas. If left for the leaf hoppers, they’ll quickly spread the bacteria to other plants in the vicinity. I’ll send a photo if you can tell me how. good luck! Do not gather these caterpillars up and put them back on the milkweed, thinking they just wondered off and couldn't find their way back to their food. Todd Nelson. The milkweed in my backyard raised bed is afflicted by this. I've wiped out the little bastards with BT, but now I'm wondering if a bud wash would be a good idea to clean off any residual BT and leftover caterpillar poop. Subject. This is happening on both our ground-planted swamp milkweed and also on our potted tropical milkweed plants. While there are plenty of insecticides on the market that can kill insects, there is a much kinder approach and a more effective one. While I’m not seeing many aphids (the ladybugs are getting them! Instead, good management can be simply cleaning up a plant that has been eaten to the stalk by either rinsing thoroughly, or using a bleach mix of at least 10% bleach to water, or hydrogen peroxide with water at a 50/50 rate. (Skip to the bottom to see what you can do if you find your caterpillars in this situation.) However, although Monarch eggs are fairly securely attached, that hard blast of water could dislodge any Monarch eggs or larvae that are hidden on the bottoms of your leaves too! I also have had funky looking milkweed leaves that fed my caterpillars just fine. Not sure I want to go there. I noticed a monarch butterfly around yesterday. I've been very vigilant about my treatment, using tea tree oil, borax, hydrogen peroxide, lemongrass oil, eucalyptus oil, and apple cider vinegar. Hi Lynne, I’m not a plant disease expert. Here’s more short and long term strategies on: My milkweed on the patio have white mottling on the leaves. I have been wondering what the heck is wrong with my plant! I have not used bacteria based fungicides before and don’t know how they would affect monarchs or your local ecosystem. Yeah, I'm kinda scared to see what comes out of my buds. Is this fungus? At this point, you could try cutting back the affected areas of the plant and then spray the remaining plant and soil…good luck! Any suggestions? They then told me because my plants were indoors that that was the problem. Hi Ashlee, the plant disease shouldn’t affect the caterpillars. I have never seen plants have an adverse reaction to it and I often use more than the charts. Hi Andrea, I don’t know much about specific fungus types, but the techniques listed have worked well to prevent and stop the spread of milkweed fungus in our northern garden. I hope the disease pages link helps you figure out what’s going on…good luck! In Indiana it’s Purdue. Help, I am doing everything the same , I totally wash all the stems before bringing in to the cages. Hi Chris, I use it preventatively. Is this from too much shade or what? Why are my plants’ leaves turning purple? 4. How can we detect if a plant is infected with the parasite? We use the hydrogen peroxide preventatively, soaking the soil before the plants emerge in spring. Most universities have a insect rearing lab that could answer your question. I see little black dots on the leaves as well- which makes me wonder if it’s an insect causing this? hi Kat, if your plants are getting too much direct sun too quickly the leaves can burn. 5. Check out our pests page: Tony. Hi Karen, I would remove the affected leaves and try spraying the plants (and soil) with hydrogen peroxide after…good luck! I have several milkweed plants in my lanai. I grew my seeds in 8 “cow pots” sitting in a plastic container sitting on heat mats and all under lights. Two different nurseries for my 5 gallon mildweed (tropical) plants. According to a Sept. 15 statement, three Zep disinfectants kill COVID on surfaces in just one minute. These often kill the caterpillars just before they pupate, or during the pupa stage. Being able to keep these insects at bay is critical. I’ve removed each purple leaf and examined them carefully. If you’re having a lot of problems with this, you might want to consider rearing them in separate containers to see if you can avoid this problem in the future. You can control their population easily. Is it safe to use the solution on the plants with eggs? April 16 at 8:34 pm. I normally use a pint of Hydrogen peroxide to 3 gallons of weed, and ice and water . I have a lot of yellow and black spotted leaves. Oddly- my neighbors yard has become overgrown with this same type milkweed which were healthy until this past week the leaves have a silvery blackish spotting along them. Using the wrong spray technique can kill your caterpillars by launching them off the milkweed to places only seen by superheroes with x-ray vision… To avoid this tragedy: 1. Thanks for your time. No way. About 75% of them seem to be trying to leave the plant. Hi Kurt, I always cut off problem leaves and sections of the plant if necessary…I would also check to see if you have spider mites by spraying a leaf to see if you can webbing. Some caterpillars are turning black and deflating, some are going into J too early and expelling magots, some of my chryaslis are brown, some are deformed, some have threads, some will allow the monarch to come out but the monarch is deformed. I don’t think it would hurt eggs, but I would suggest testing it out before spraying them in mass…. Please! I have a bunch of seeds to plant and no safe place to plant them now . I have a gray film on the leaves of my plants. I figure they are either going to die for sure from the leaf spot (the1 tablespoon 3% peroxide per 8 oz didn’t do anything after the fact), so I might as well treat them aggressively and see what happens. I don’t know where to turn to an answer. Hey Tony, will spraying my milkweed with the hydrogen peroxide mix for fungus hurt monarch eggs or cats. In continuous growing regions, tropical milkweed should be cut back periodically so fresh growth can emerge: I started several tropical milkweed from cuttings, and they were doing well until a couple of days, the leaves have tiny white spots and the leaf color is lighter green. Hi! Will they be fine having been on that plant? Hi Kathryn, check out this info for how we use hydrogen peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide both treats and further prevents pest infestation. If I water my milkweed plant (from the base) it turns yellow, if I dont water it wilts. These mites are vicious! Because everything is freshly planted, I have hand watered all the new plants (all are drought tolerant plants, ground cover) and not sure if I have too much or not enough water now for the milkweed. Any pesticides/insecticides that kill milkweed bugs will also kill Monarch and Queen caterpillars. It’s been all day now and they’re slow to munch. Green liquid from your caterpillars? Or is it not getting enough sun? My tropical milkweed is growing beautifully and I started seeing eggs in march but no cats. Hi Darby, you have to experiment to find that happy medium where the plants will thrive. Hi Sara, this happens to milkweed in mid-late summer…most often on swamp milkweed. If the simple combination of drying out the soil and hanging a few sticky traps doesn’t get the job done, there are several natural and non-toxic products used to kill fungus gnats as well.One option is to use something you probably already have around your house – hydrogen peroxide! I wonder what the issue is. Do you know how often I can spray? When plant leaves get fungus, I remove them so it won’t spread. The tachnid fly has been covered. All my tropical milkweed has the black spots and then turns yellow. I try to limit my caterpillar shit inhalations as much as possible. Hello! I see nothing wrong with it, I’m sure it has pros and cons. Hi – I just noticed that my otherwise healthy looking Asclepias tuberosa – butterfly weed – has yellow-ish leaves with dark green veins. Hi Brenda, you could always try spraying leaves with a hydrogen peroxide solution and/or removing affected leaves as is listed in the post…, Will the peroxide help with rust spots do the leaves and will it hurt the caterpillars . Thanks. Monarch caterpillars grow fast and molt (shed their skin) five times during their growth. PS…I don’t think it would be toxic to future eggs/caterpillars, but you could always rinse off the plants with water if you are concerned. I usually remove/discard those leaves and it’s never developed into a serious problem. We are in SoCal with some really hot temps now. During that time I have raised a few hundred monarchs very successfully indoors. Thanks, Terry Greenwell. I use the measurements for sick/fungusy plants…2 cups in a 2 gallon watering can of the 3%. Visit our Facebook Page to discuss this article! The acceptance from the EPA is based on data from extensive testing on each product. This year I’m really confused and scared. I also removed a few of my plants with spots which were seedlingd last year so they were still small this year. More info here: I planted tropical milkweed in a sunny area in my moist garden about four weeks ago. When picking by hand, some people wear gloves. Looking good at 3″ ,tall They seem happy alongside my tomatoes, peppers and eggplants. Monarch caterpillar on common milkweed by Joanna Gilkeson, USFWS. I would cut all the plants down to the ground and treat the stubs and soil as well as clean all the surrounding surfaces. You can kill lots of gypsy moth caterpillars simply by wrapping your tree trunks with a band of burlap bags. Prepare a cup of soapy water or half-alcohol and half-water mixture. I waited a bit and bought two more plants from a different nursery and tried again. I also need to know if it’s safe to spray with H2O2 solution when eggs and cats are present? Its been damp lately but the plants have been protected from being rained on directly and I have only been watering them minimally. They’re not planted very close together. Thanks for all you do. 1. I have seen a lot of ants. I have since removed my other cats onto another plant. I use hydrogen peroxide preventatively on soil and small plants. ), I notice one of my milkweed plants is growing yellow leaves at the bottom. I wouldn’t worry about overusing it though. As a background, there must be at least 25 cats on the bush which is average size in a container about a year old. It has to be the milkweed, do you think the late season milkweed (tropical) could have oem that doesn’t wash off. Zero loss of potency and it's crazy how much shit comes out of them and how much better the smoke is after. I have a ton of cats on my milkweed plant, mostly very young to about a week or so in size. Thanks! What could be causing this problem? They didn’t get any other calls. Hi Deborah, OE wouldn’t cause the caterpillars to stop eating. I’ve been into monarchs for about four years. check out this post to learn more about monarch predators and what you can do to save more monarchs: Hi Tony, is it safe to spray milkweed with a baking soda mixture or would it be harmful to cats. Hi Wheelz, this sounds like a potential virus (NPV) or bacterial disease. Of course, they accept no responsibility and told me they know nothing about caterpillars etc. I’ve brought them in and have them in their own cage. Some are more red in color than green. I have 5 monarch chrysalises safe inside now. Amen. Thank you. 2. I’m not sure if foreign substances would affect their perception…again, you can always test. Because it's so diluted, I don't think it would be an issue for monarch eggs or caterpillars, but you would have to test to know for sure. The pheromone bag is a great idea; I’ve never seen any to buy. hi Meg, if it’s not planted in well drained soil, root rot is a possibility, although i haven’t seen this with tropical milkweed in our northern region. They couldn’t offer me a solution. What can I do to save the plant? More info here: What is the best way to trim back my milkweed? Thoroughly inspect your milkweed, rescue any eggs or caterpillars, and move them onto an uninfected plant, or to a protected location, like a netted butterfly pavilion. was it the 1 tablespoon of 3 % for each cup of water? I’m not sure what causes it, but it’s never been a serious problem. Last updated on May 19, 2020 You might be familiar with the butterfly gardener catchphrase plant it and they will come. They create a horrible stink, like a stink bug. The plants are only about 2′ tall and bloom pods are just beginning to appear. Hi Joanne, I’ve seen this before too and just removed the affected leaves. Although hydrogen peroxide is a disinfectant and antiseptic, it is not as effective as copper fungicide in preventing late blight on tomatoes. I then explained that I had been doing things this way for a long time and never before had a problem. What can I do to prevent this without hurting the plant or cats? Alcohol, however, also is lethal to monarch eggs and larvae, so care must be taken when dabbing. Water at the base of the plants– this is less necessary if your plants have good air circulation. or is this something that is naturally occurring in the plant? He was as upset as I was. what about residue remaining on leaves that they may eat? I’m in central Florida. We have had a lot of rain. I have a lot of milkweed- probably 15 different patches throughout my yard. I only spray water on monarch-occupied plants. Thanks. I live in central Florida. What is it. These cuttings aren’t a perfect looking as some of the others but I can’t identify what I’m seeing. Should I just cut them all back and treat the ground and let them try to re-grow? I would post your photo in a facebook group like this: My swamp milkweed plants has reddish/purple edges on some of the leaves. ? I can’t find anything that says if this is normal Fall behavior or not (chicago, zone 5b). Hi Anissa, yellow leaves is more common from overwatering, or if its yellow spotting, it could be a fungus: If you spray the plant with hydrogen peroxide, won’t that kill the monarch caterpillar? Hi Barbara, fungus can be a problem with too much moisture or when plants are spaced too close together. I want to get ahead of the fungus this year because last year I was far behind. Tropical milkweed is almost all you can find here, but it is suggested that it’s long season may discourage mmigration to their winter sites in Mexico and contribute to the OE problem. Any suggestions? nope…just the 3% commonly found in stores. Hi Gloria, hydrogen peroxide is actually food for plants, adding more oxygen to the roots. Milkweeds can take full sun with some wilt if temp goes up to 110 , temp around 80-mid 90’s should be ok …they don’t need much water after the first year. I’ll look first, and remove any I find to safety, but of course I may miss some. I have gotten better, and I'm covered in scars. Thoughts? A strong enough bleach solution to kill all of the OE spores would also destroy the monarch … it may perform better if it’s allowed to go through the winter part of it’s growth cycle, which it is able to do in perennial zones that still experience a true winter where the plant dies back. Happy Raising! I successfully raised over 50 butterflies at the beginning of the season and now the last 3 cages have been dying as the cats get nice size , they stop eating and just sit there for days and gradually die. Thank you, Hi Gloria, I use it preventatively and haven’t had to use it during the season. One potential bacteria that causes this to happen is: Hi there. I wash all my outdoors buds. I’m especially concerned because this is only happening to one of my plants, although they do get different amounts of sun exposure. It killed the aphids, didn’t harm the butterfly weed and the cats seemed to be ok. Hi Allie…hard to say. How do you get rid of parsley worms? I also have some butterfly bushes that have a little bleach looking area, but the milkweed is more worrisome for me. If the fungus is really bad, i’m not sure what option you have besides cutting back plants. Hi Gail, I use the mixing chart for sick/fungusy plants: Sounds like Kathy had a combination of problems. I’ve got them separated into three different milkweed cuttings. After yesterday’s wild feat i expected most of these leaves to be gone by now. Within the last 2 days I have had several cats die. Mist the milkweed plants from above so water mist rains down on them. Simply: 1. Yellowing leaves can be from too much or too little water…adjust water levels to see if this makes a difference. Should I try and find new cuttings from a different source? I planted a butterfly and pollinator garden a couple of months ago. Tony, what peroxide mixture did you use to water your dirt before plants began to emerge? Hi Terry, I use this more preventatively at the beginning of the season and overwintering plants indoors. That kills them outright. Many plant diseases and fungus are the result of low oxygen levels in the roots. It can be especially bad with curassavica. Did you soak the dirt or just spray on top of it? When spraying plants, make sure you get all sections and under the leaves too…, Well, I found more spots today, removed the leaves, and sprayed the plants and sprayed the dirt with an almost 50-50 solution of 3% hydrogen peroxide. Replenish their milk?– for fungi similar to blackspot, try this simple rose remedy after removing the affected leaves: note: If you’re spraying sickly milkweed and notice webbing on the plant, you’re probably dealing with microscopic (almost) spider mites and can check out our milkweed pests page for specific treatment options. But as spring arrived, the leaves started looking sickly. Hi Sandra, sorry to hear this. Using a 1% hydrogen peroxide solution will help to repel insects and will also kill any eggs that may have been laid. I recently bought and planted 4 nice sized Asclepias curassavica ‘Silky Deep Red’ – Red Butterflyweed plants. Is there a way to send you an electronic picture. All it takes is about five to ten caterpillars to demolish your plant. Is there anything else I can do? It can also prevent another common fungus that causes milkweed to wilt and die. Every bit of my milkweed has the rust colored fungus and my catties are eating them, so I hope the fungus doesn’t hurt them either. This was a very helpful article on fungus. Just break off yellow leaves and discard. To spray on sick or fungusy plants: TO THIS AMOUNT OF WATER ADD THIS AMOUNT OF 3% HYDROGEN PEROXIDE 1 cup --1 tablespoon 1 pint-- 2 tablespoons 1 quart-- 1/4 cup 1 gallon-- 1 cup 5 gallons-- 5 cups 10 gallons-- 10 cups 20 gallons-- 20 cups As you may notice, the amount of peroxide in the chart for sick and fungusy plants is twice as much as … I’m new to the this and don’t want to do anything that is going to worsen the situation. I planted the plants in my yard and the Monarchs showed up within days. I’m in Houston and have been raising asclepias for 25 years. When it make sense, prune away entire sections of the plant. Those little beggars will crawl up your arm and bite like chiggers and will drive you crazy for a day. Since these caterpillars like to hide during the heat of the day, they will find their way into and under the burlap bags, making it very easy for you to kill lots of them quickly. H2O2 kills gnat larvae on contact. I am so interested in the H2O2 thing. When you purchase new plants, it’s best to place them in a shadier area and gradually exposing them to more sun. I bought a few Milkweed plants so I could attract and photograph Monarch butterflies. I checked for spiders/mites etc but can’t seem to figure out what has happened. I would focus on adding more pesticide-free milkweed plants to your garden, or there won’t be enough to feed them all. I have some yellow/orange looking leaves. In the spring I lost over 40 and called the first nursery. This can be avoided by bringing in eggs. You water with a hydrogen peroxide and water preventable y? I was going to dig up most of their milkweed and transplant it. Anyone ever use the dawn and water to see if it helps with rust? of wetting agent (dishwashing liquid will do) Use this mixture as a foliar spray to keep your plants healthy and free from bugs. Can I spray Hydrogen Peroxide on Monarch Eggs and Caterpillars? Hi Renee, this is how swamp milkweed goes out every season. If an infected butterfly lays eggs, they will be infected and can spread the OE to other healthy cats who crawl over the same plants. I have never heard of these leaves potentially hurting caterpillars, but I’ve never found any caterpillars on those leaves either. It begins on the edges of the leaves and gradually the whole leaf becomes purple. Is it a light dusting or a drench? I’d also like to add that last year I had the worst aphid infestation imaginable. I have two milkweeds that are doing somewhat well. Thank you so much for this! I noticed one of my plants started getting the yellow curled/twisted leaves that you mentioned is caused by leafhoppers. It happened in just a couple of weeks. If you want to attract butterflies and pollinators, an “organic” approach is essential to your success. I am thinking of cutting most of it down to stems and then spraying the stems and the ground and then hope there is new growth in August. But right there is a possible answer~~RINSING. The plants infested with aphids you have to wash off the aphids by hand using water in a squirt bottle. Thanks. I’ve never heard of fungus spreading like this. Monarch caterpillars rely on milkweed plants and that’s why female monarchs choose to lay their eggs on milkweed plants. I’m not sure what those black dots are but taking some photos and asking around. Hi Cait, I cut ours back with a hand pruner. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Last year we encouraged monarchs naturally by growing milkweed outside, but only found three chrysalis in total, experienced LOTS of dead caterpillars, and the milkweed struggled to keep enough foliage for the relentless waves of caterpillars that never seemed to make it all the way through to becoming to a butterfly. It starts off with small Yellowish brown bumps all over the underside of the leaves. Make sure to get the undersides of the leaves. I dug up a large tropical milkweed after last years first frost and it grew beautifully all winter. At least I know what to do next year. This bacterial disease is spread mainly by leaf hoppers and is recognized by yellowing leaves with twisted shapes, and die back of branches. I would removing the affected leaves and then spray the other leaves with the hydrogen peroxide mix listed in the post to see if that makes a difference. I removed the whole plant to be safe and when I checked the underside of all its leaves I found 2 small cats. There are flies that predate on the caterpillars and young chrysalides. I typically remove the affected leaves…, We mostly use h202 preventatively on the soil before the plants emerge in spring. I have hatched over 90% by protecting them. Hi Elana, sounds like a possible fungus…I would remove the affected leaves. Hydrogen peroxide also helps your plants grow by putting more oxygen into the soil. I didn’t see anywhere that talked about how often you can spray. The only plants not infected are the family jewels plants. Is this something that happens to milkweed? Hydrogen peroxide also adds more oxygen to the soil to prevent root rot. Do you know if those bacteria based fungicides are safe to use around monarchs? Can they be eating the eggs and cats? Would the hydrogen peroxide possibly work? Thanks! Things here are in a mess. Lots of foliage since I trimmed it back. 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